Huntn
Mar 11, 06:28 PM
Again, the military is inextricable from the economy.
President Eisenhower thought it was better to expend energy and our precious resources on products that help and improve the human race, not to kill each other.
But I understand what you are saying though. Shifts will have to be made, pain will be suffered, just like the entire U.S. and most of the Western World is suffering the pains of globalization allowing the Middle Class to approach extinction, while the Rich get richer. In the U.S. you can thank the evil end-justifies-the-means, lying, cheating, Republican Party. And their "end" sucks a lot! Boehner and McConnel should be banned from holding public office.
President Eisenhower thought it was better to expend energy and our precious resources on products that help and improve the human race, not to kill each other.
But I understand what you are saying though. Shifts will have to be made, pain will be suffered, just like the entire U.S. and most of the Western World is suffering the pains of globalization allowing the Middle Class to approach extinction, while the Rich get richer. In the U.S. you can thank the evil end-justifies-the-means, lying, cheating, Republican Party. And their "end" sucks a lot! Boehner and McConnel should be banned from holding public office.
Nipsy
Oct 13, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by Source
Good replies, Nipsy. Although you completely misunderstood some of my points addressed some points that i wasn't even talking about and also made some points that i completely disagree with.
I might make a proper reply addressing these tomorrow, if:
A. I have the time.
B. I can be bothered.
Oh and i'm well over 18, have a very high IQ and a masters degree. :) That doesn't make me any more likely to be right or wrong than you, i'm just saying, seeing as you made some delightful comments about 13 and under 18 year olds in your aforementioned post.
If you guys don't mind Apple being behind in hardware, then, quite honestly, stop whining about it.
So many Mac users spend hours a day, talking about Apple and what they're doing wrong, but never take any action. If those who care about Apple being the slowest computers on the market are not going to do something about it, then they should shut up about it.
If you're going to whine about it constantly and then get upset with someone who says it's not good enough, then you're just a stupid hypocrit. I realize that you're happy with the productivity your Mac(s) has brought you, and are incredibly loyal to Apple, as well you should be, but if you're going to complain about it, then at least make some attempt to do something about it. or shut up about it.
Just a quickie:
I'm not whining about anything. I think of Macs as entry level workstations (not as desktops), and as such, I find them cheap, reliable, and speedy.
I'd like more speed (as I do tax my machine), but I'm not known to whine about anything. If you'll notice, my post is very point/counterpoint, and primarily designed to dispel some of the myths proffered from either side of the fence. If you read it carefully, I think you'll see that I'm neither a hypocrite, nor stupid. My spelling and grammar are strong. My arguments and points are logical, and put forth based on data, published and empirical.
Note I was quick to agree that Macs are not the fastest machines...
Secondly, Macs are not the slowest machines on the market. For processing only arguments, the Mac line sits squarely between the top and bottom end Windows machines. For reliability (uptime, TCO), the Mac sits between more mature UNIX distros, and Windows.
As for age, there are a lot of people here in the 12-20 demographic, who agrue with zeal, but without fact. Oddly, it is this demographic which are most likely to buy neon case lights, watercoolers, billet milled aircraft aluminum cases, etc.
No need to take the vertical demographics as an insult!
Furthermore, what action do you propose we comsumers take to speed Apple development?
I would wager that no active posters have high level chip design on their resumes. I would further speculate that few really understand the in-and-outs of a complex gate setup, so I doubt we're going to design it for them.
Should we boycott Apple products? This drains R&D capital from Apple, and forces people to use Windows, certainly not an elegant soultion.
I am open to any suggestion you have as to how I can speed the delivery of a G5 or Power4 Lite.
Lastly, I'm a happy Apple customer, but my loyalty is available. If you can create a better matrix of performance/stability/standards based computing/availabilty of apps/cost/TCO/OS elegance I'm a customer.
Good replies, Nipsy. Although you completely misunderstood some of my points addressed some points that i wasn't even talking about and also made some points that i completely disagree with.
I might make a proper reply addressing these tomorrow, if:
A. I have the time.
B. I can be bothered.
Oh and i'm well over 18, have a very high IQ and a masters degree. :) That doesn't make me any more likely to be right or wrong than you, i'm just saying, seeing as you made some delightful comments about 13 and under 18 year olds in your aforementioned post.
If you guys don't mind Apple being behind in hardware, then, quite honestly, stop whining about it.
So many Mac users spend hours a day, talking about Apple and what they're doing wrong, but never take any action. If those who care about Apple being the slowest computers on the market are not going to do something about it, then they should shut up about it.
If you're going to whine about it constantly and then get upset with someone who says it's not good enough, then you're just a stupid hypocrit. I realize that you're happy with the productivity your Mac(s) has brought you, and are incredibly loyal to Apple, as well you should be, but if you're going to complain about it, then at least make some attempt to do something about it. or shut up about it.
Just a quickie:
I'm not whining about anything. I think of Macs as entry level workstations (not as desktops), and as such, I find them cheap, reliable, and speedy.
I'd like more speed (as I do tax my machine), but I'm not known to whine about anything. If you'll notice, my post is very point/counterpoint, and primarily designed to dispel some of the myths proffered from either side of the fence. If you read it carefully, I think you'll see that I'm neither a hypocrite, nor stupid. My spelling and grammar are strong. My arguments and points are logical, and put forth based on data, published and empirical.
Note I was quick to agree that Macs are not the fastest machines...
Secondly, Macs are not the slowest machines on the market. For processing only arguments, the Mac line sits squarely between the top and bottom end Windows machines. For reliability (uptime, TCO), the Mac sits between more mature UNIX distros, and Windows.
As for age, there are a lot of people here in the 12-20 demographic, who agrue with zeal, but without fact. Oddly, it is this demographic which are most likely to buy neon case lights, watercoolers, billet milled aircraft aluminum cases, etc.
No need to take the vertical demographics as an insult!
Furthermore, what action do you propose we comsumers take to speed Apple development?
I would wager that no active posters have high level chip design on their resumes. I would further speculate that few really understand the in-and-outs of a complex gate setup, so I doubt we're going to design it for them.
Should we boycott Apple products? This drains R&D capital from Apple, and forces people to use Windows, certainly not an elegant soultion.
I am open to any suggestion you have as to how I can speed the delivery of a G5 or Power4 Lite.
Lastly, I'm a happy Apple customer, but my loyalty is available. If you can create a better matrix of performance/stability/standards based computing/availabilty of apps/cost/TCO/OS elegance I'm a customer.
leekohler
Apr 4, 01:37 PM
Dogmatic belief in the nonexistence of God can be considered a religion.
Agnostic atheism cannot though.
Umm..no. Sorry.
Agnostic atheism cannot though.
Umm..no. Sorry.
jgk6502
Mar 21, 11:17 PM
After he received the iPad2, he scrambled around his house looking for other things to return, with a same stickie note attached.
Playboy subscription - Wife says no. Hugh says yes, as a bunny shows up at his door.
Playboy subscription - Wife says no. Hugh says yes, as a bunny shows up at his door.
SPEEDwithJJ
Oct 24, 04:51 PM
I paid the same amount for my current 13.3" but I have 2.13ghz, 128gb ssd, superdrive, apple care, retail leopard and snow leopard rolled into it.
Plus, you've also got a backlit keyboard (which some of us value a lot) on your MBA. :)
Plus, you've also got a backlit keyboard (which some of us value a lot) on your MBA. :)
spicyapple
Nov 27, 11:08 AM
What about a yellow Ipod?
And waterproof down to 100 metres! :)
And waterproof down to 100 metres! :)
Analog Kid
Aug 3, 03:26 AM
any idea who the 3rd party vendor was? perhaps the hate mail should start flying there way!
That's the rub, isn't it. My first instinct was that they should have named the vendor by name so we know not to buy their products and all could see the smoking ruins of their company and heed the warning: write good software.
Then I realized why they didn't release the name... It's the same problem as for OS vendors-- if you release the details of the attack before it's patched then users pay the price.
That's the publicity vs security debate in a nutshell, methinks.
That's the rub, isn't it. My first instinct was that they should have named the vendor by name so we know not to buy their products and all could see the smoking ruins of their company and heed the warning: write good software.
Then I realized why they didn't release the name... It's the same problem as for OS vendors-- if you release the details of the attack before it's patched then users pay the price.
That's the publicity vs security debate in a nutshell, methinks.
PlaceofDis
Nov 27, 02:13 PM
i would like this. i enjoy the beatles and would love to be more easily able to explore their music, and while i might not purchase them all through iTunes getting the previews would be very helpful. :)
Carniphage
Apr 14, 09:36 AM
This is unit sales only.
HP makes about $15 profit per machine. Apple makes about ten times that.
I am pretty sure these numbers mean that Apple is now the most profitable PC manufacturer. That's without the iPad and iPhone numbers.
C.
HP makes about $15 profit per machine. Apple makes about ten times that.
I am pretty sure these numbers mean that Apple is now the most profitable PC manufacturer. That's without the iPad and iPhone numbers.
C.
hulugu
Aug 3, 02:55 AM
...The title of the demo is "Device Drivers: Don't build a house on shaky ground." They are drawing attention to a serious problem and most people here are missing the point because all the blood rushed to their heads when they saw the Mac logo.
They clearly say this is not Apple's problem, it's because of buggy code in a 3rd party driver. They're using the Mac for a reason here-- they are specifically making the point that it doesn't matter how much trust you put into your OS vendor, you can get hosed by any poorly made USB thingy that you stick in the side.
I totally agree with you and I blame the Washington Post for the initial insanity. The headline and article made it sound as if the MacBook was the problem and not the third-party device driver. Obviously, there is a security hole that needs to be addressed by vendors like Apple, but this isn't an Apple hardware problem.
I may have be initially too dismissive of the article, but that's because of the sudden yellow tint to all the articles regarding Macintosh security. The tech-press is ready to wet themselves the moment a Macintosh hole is discovered and far too many people, offended by the Get A Mac commercials, have their long knives sharpened and are just waiting for the opportunity to use them. Some were so quick on the draw I suspect they merely read the headline.
They clearly say this is not Apple's problem, it's because of buggy code in a 3rd party driver. They're using the Mac for a reason here-- they are specifically making the point that it doesn't matter how much trust you put into your OS vendor, you can get hosed by any poorly made USB thingy that you stick in the side.
I totally agree with you and I blame the Washington Post for the initial insanity. The headline and article made it sound as if the MacBook was the problem and not the third-party device driver. Obviously, there is a security hole that needs to be addressed by vendors like Apple, but this isn't an Apple hardware problem.
I may have be initially too dismissive of the article, but that's because of the sudden yellow tint to all the articles regarding Macintosh security. The tech-press is ready to wet themselves the moment a Macintosh hole is discovered and far too many people, offended by the Get A Mac commercials, have their long knives sharpened and are just waiting for the opportunity to use them. Some were so quick on the draw I suspect they merely read the headline.
Scott6666
Apr 17, 01:47 PM
Just came back from my morning shopping...
The BestBuy ad is a total debacle. I was at the store in Rockville, MD at 10:30; by 11am there were about a dozen people looking for an iPad.
NO stock at all. Just reservations (for $100).
People were hopping mad and venting (nicely) to the manager. Lots of talk about lost customer and never shopping there again. I thought the memo said "avoid customer disappoints". It's all they seemed to have done.
I'm surprised more people aren't posting upset. I guess it shows how few people think BB is still relevant.
===
And BTW, I ran into Walt Mossberg at the Rockville Microcenter and mentioned it to him. Maybe he'll write a little bit about it.
The BestBuy ad is a total debacle. I was at the store in Rockville, MD at 10:30; by 11am there were about a dozen people looking for an iPad.
NO stock at all. Just reservations (for $100).
People were hopping mad and venting (nicely) to the manager. Lots of talk about lost customer and never shopping there again. I thought the memo said "avoid customer disappoints". It's all they seemed to have done.
I'm surprised more people aren't posting upset. I guess it shows how few people think BB is still relevant.
===
And BTW, I ran into Walt Mossberg at the Rockville Microcenter and mentioned it to him. Maybe he'll write a little bit about it.
iliketyla
Mar 28, 07:16 PM
I suggest a thread on vehicle selection. My new bud, iliketyla, and I are on the case. He, iliketyia, has a scooter and I have a well equipped SUV. My nano is hooked into the sound system his, I suspect, is hooked into ear buds.
So, my dream car is the Audi A8. How about you?
Haha! Yes sir, got some Skull Candy earbuds that provide premium sound quality.
My dream car is Eleanor from Gone In Sixty Seconds.
So, my dream car is the Audi A8. How about you?
Haha! Yes sir, got some Skull Candy earbuds that provide premium sound quality.
My dream car is Eleanor from Gone In Sixty Seconds.
BrianMojo
May 5, 01:46 AM
Wouldn't be a bad idea. Even if they just made "patches" so we aren't downloading half a gb of updates every 2 weeks.
This. Patches are desperately needed for this OS.
This. Patches are desperately needed for this OS.
micromarcie
Nov 7, 01:20 AM
I mainly hope that they go up to 1GB of RAM with this. Maybe a minor hard-drive upgrade too. Either way, I'm buying.
I hope for this as well. If not, I'll probably still go for it. It's not that much for a harddrive upgrade. As far as gig ram goes, why not? :D
Can anyone think of a reason not to order a C2D the day they come out? Wait to see if there's bugs or something?
Personally, I would find it kind of hard to wait!
I hope for this as well. If not, I'll probably still go for it. It's not that much for a harddrive upgrade. As far as gig ram goes, why not? :D
Can anyone think of a reason not to order a C2D the day they come out? Wait to see if there's bugs or something?
Personally, I would find it kind of hard to wait!
kgforce
Sep 22, 04:13 PM
It seems that since Wal-Mart tends to service the very lowest income class in our culture and many of these folks tend to not have computers, and to the extent they do, tend to not have broadband either, it seems there is a degree of mutual exclusivity of markets.
Wow. That's an elitist statement. I think you need to travel around the country and see who really shops at Wal-Mart -- basically every socio-economic group. From poorest to the wealthiest. Even people with broadband!
I would be considered upper-middle class and my family shops there all the time. And we have friends that would be considered wealthy, perhaps even super-wealthy, and they shop there, too.
Wow. That's an elitist statement. I think you need to travel around the country and see who really shops at Wal-Mart -- basically every socio-economic group. From poorest to the wealthiest. Even people with broadband!
I would be considered upper-middle class and my family shops there all the time. And we have friends that would be considered wealthy, perhaps even super-wealthy, and they shop there, too.
cogsinister
Aug 24, 05:39 PM
My battery serial number was in the 3K437 range, but the website accepted my computers serial number, but not the battery...
So i changed the last letter of my battery serial number from an A to a C (B diden't work)
And it went thru.....
:D sweet
So i changed the last letter of my battery serial number from an A to a C (B diden't work)
And it went thru.....
:D sweet
dumptruck
Mar 12, 05:55 AM
And Swedish.... Come on!
mufflon
Oct 16, 01:51 AM
Personally the Zune is looking fairly attrective right now. Ever since the 5th Gen iPod came out everyone has complained that it needed to be widescreen and have a bigger screen. I don't care for the WiFi sharing really but you have to admit the interface looks pretty nice.
To be honest I would rather have long battery hours than a bigger screen - which is doomed to drink more of the juice - or wireless capabilities.
I wouldn't like a deeper ipod just because the screen is bigger (and it will have to given that one would like the same battery hours) - my 3g ipod was thich, I don't want a 6th gen copycat!
I suppose the bigger screenw ill come sooner or later - I wouldn't mind one either - I just prefer to be actually able to watch a movie without recharging!
To be honest I would rather have long battery hours than a bigger screen - which is doomed to drink more of the juice - or wireless capabilities.
I wouldn't like a deeper ipod just because the screen is bigger (and it will have to given that one would like the same battery hours) - my 3g ipod was thich, I don't want a 6th gen copycat!
I suppose the bigger screenw ill come sooner or later - I wouldn't mind one either - I just prefer to be actually able to watch a movie without recharging!
partyBoy
Oct 11, 06:18 PM
No, I am working in Japan. I am an AET here.
What's AET ? (american eagle t-shirts):p
What's AET ? (american eagle t-shirts):p
ComputersaysNo
Mar 18, 01:52 PM
A 24-bit ipod for lossless files in the near future and Apple will turn the spacetimecontinuum once again.
tigres
Apr 13, 03:29 PM
Would this run on a maxed 13" air ok?
dernhelm
Oct 27, 04:46 AM
Yes, after installing the update my MB definitively feels nippier.
Repairing permissions will decrease the temperature by another 2�C. At least.
Safari runs faster too :D
Repairing permissions will decrease the temperature by another 2�C. At least.
Safari runs faster too :D
fixyourthinking
Aug 3, 06:54 AM
I totally agree with you and I blame the Washington Post for the initial insanity. The headline and article made it sound as if the MacBook was the problem and not the third-party device driver. Obviously, there is a security hole that needs to be addressed by vendors like Apple, but this isn't an Apple hardware problem.
I may have beeen initially too dismissive of the article, but that's because of the sudden yellow tint to all the articles regarding Macintosh security. The tech-press is ready to wet themselves the moment a Macintosh hole is discovered and far too many people, offended by the Get A Mac commercials, have their long knives sharpened and are just waiting for the opportunity to use them. Some were so quick on the draw I suspect they merely read the headline.
The problem is that it was also from a third party device driver from something that almost ZERO people will use with MacBooks ... a USB to wireless adapter. Further, the driver for the third party device had to be installed "PRIOR" to the hack and then also had to access the wireless access point via the terminal ... who does that? And how many people just have the terminal open?
I may have beeen initially too dismissive of the article, but that's because of the sudden yellow tint to all the articles regarding Macintosh security. The tech-press is ready to wet themselves the moment a Macintosh hole is discovered and far too many people, offended by the Get A Mac commercials, have their long knives sharpened and are just waiting for the opportunity to use them. Some were so quick on the draw I suspect they merely read the headline.
The problem is that it was also from a third party device driver from something that almost ZERO people will use with MacBooks ... a USB to wireless adapter. Further, the driver for the third party device had to be installed "PRIOR" to the hack and then also had to access the wireless access point via the terminal ... who does that? And how many people just have the terminal open?
halhiker
Sep 22, 11:48 PM
I wouldn't be shocked if WalMart were telling studios don't sell to Apple. The ethics of Walmart have never been in question: they don't have any.
The thing that sticks out in this article, if it's true and it is the Post so...., is that Apple is paying $4.51 more for a movie than it can sell it for. Does this make any sense? The iTunes Store is not like Walmart where you can pick up prepackaged meat, cookies and Preparation H while you're getting a movie. Is it because Steve makes money either way? I would think the idea of selling movies is to make a profit on them. And if Walmart is ALWAYS the low price does that mean new movies will be less than iTunes?
Also, if this story is true I wonder how well Walmart will fare in receiving their shipments of new iPods for Xmas. I saw them at Target yesterday. I wonder if Walmart's got any yet.
Hal
The thing that sticks out in this article, if it's true and it is the Post so...., is that Apple is paying $4.51 more for a movie than it can sell it for. Does this make any sense? The iTunes Store is not like Walmart where you can pick up prepackaged meat, cookies and Preparation H while you're getting a movie. Is it because Steve makes money either way? I would think the idea of selling movies is to make a profit on them. And if Walmart is ALWAYS the low price does that mean new movies will be less than iTunes?
Also, if this story is true I wonder how well Walmart will fare in receiving their shipments of new iPods for Xmas. I saw them at Target yesterday. I wonder if Walmart's got any yet.
Hal
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